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    Cool Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    I rec this e mail have not hear about it but though you all should know, be safe out on the streets.

    paul

    Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Recently a new way to commit suicide has been discovered by
    mixing two chemicals that can be bought over the counter at local
    stores. They are Bonide - a sulfur spray used as an insecticide for
    fruit trees and hydrochloric (muriatic) acid. Once mixed, the chemicals
    produce heat and a flammable, noxious gas that causes the subject to
    pass out and the heart stop within minutes. The process appears to be
    quick and painless. Two recent cases, one in Pasadena, California and
    the other at Lake Allatoona in Bartow County, Georgia, involved young
    men in their early 20's. Both were found locked inside their cars with
    the chemicals. Each left a note on the car warning anyone around of
    danger. The car at Lake Allatoona had been taped to prevent gas from
    escaping.

    Does this sound like a routine call that most of us would
    respond to and take similar action?

    It's Sunday morning 0730 hours, you respond to a person down in
    auto. You locate a car in the empty parking lot of a business. The
    engine and med unit pull up near the vehicle and personnel see a person
    inside that appears to be asleep or unconscious. Wearing safety glasses
    and medical gloves, you walk up to the car and knock on the window.

    The patient does not respond to your knock on the window, and
    the doors are locked.
    What action will you take? Will you hurry to make patient
    access? Will you use a lockout tool, center punch, or halligan to make
    entry?

    You make access, a rush of warm air comes out of the vehicle and
    you smell a sharp odor. You have just become a victim and have been
    exposed to a noxious possibly fatal gas.

    What could you have done differently? You are the first-in unit.
    How should you respond to this type of incident?

    1. Do not become complacent! Your response should be similar
    on every call.
    2. Be well trained, know your job, do your job.
    3. Start your size-up from the time a call is dispatched.
    4. Establish a strong command and control the scene.
    5. Don't go rushing in.
    6. Survey the scene.
    7. Does the scene look routine?
    8. Do you see anything unusual? (Example: A note on the
    window, containers
    inside the vehicle and taped windows or vents).
    9. Is the scene safe?
    10. Wear the appropriate PPE.
    11. Establish a Hot Zone.
    12. Develop a plan of action and coordinate activities.
    13. Call for additional resources. (Hazmat Team, PD, etc.)
    14. Did PD arrive prior to FD and become contaminated requiring
    emergency decon and first aid?

    The call listed in the first paragraph of this document started
    as a routine person down call. This type of incident can easily expand
    into a full blown Hazardous Materials Incident with a
    multijurisdictional response. Be aware of this new way to commit
    suicide and don't become a victim. Use common sense and stay safe.

    To review a newspaper article and pictures regarding the suicide
    in Pasadena, California, visit:

    http://beaconmedianews.com/2008/08/2...its-suicide-wi
    th-chemicals-inside-2003-vw-bug/


    To review a newspaper article and pictures regarding the suicide
    in Barton, Georgia visit:

    http://www.daily-tribune.com/index.c...674BB0CD-19B9-
    E2E2-676EC6D537211BFE
    old man medic, if it's leaking plug it, not breathing bag it, heart to fast slow it down, to slow speed it up, you can always shock it if yoou see a saw in the ekg, if not sweet give d50, to sweet give ns, when it all going bad, turn lights on & drive like nascar to ed.

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Excellent information. Thank you for posting it.
    No one ever calls 911 for doing something smart!

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Wow. Thanks for posting.
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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Well, to be honest, Georgia IS rather suicide-inducing...
    TERRIBILIS EST LOCU ISTE


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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by screaming pizza View Post
    Well, to be honest, Georgia IS rather suicide-inducing...
    It's better than living north of the Mason Dixon...This place is MISERY!
    God bless those of lesser intelligence, for they keep me gainfully employed. Amen.

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Thank you for the article. I'll pass this on to some people.
    "Is this seat taken? Congratulations..."

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/News/DC-Suicide-Becomes-HazMat-Incident/46$58874

    I saw this on firehouse, I wonder if its the same thing?

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    Hey thanks for that!! I'll print it and post it in the copshop and firehouse!!
    A Jack Booted Thug!!!

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Thanks for the info.

    Sending to our management people right now...as well as local FD and PD.

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    Default Re: Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide

    Thanks for the information, I have sent it to those I know and love who may come across this in their areas.

    God I hope Canadians don't find out which chemicals to mix
    Hell I pray that none of you guys ever get called to one of these scenes..........
    Be safe!


    see you sometime after the surgery.

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