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paemt · 12-10-2008, 10:00 PM

CPAP was just approved for BLS units in PA I was wondering where else this is a BLS skill and how it has worked out

scribble · 12-10-2008, 10:04 PM

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paemt · 12-10-2008, 10:15 PM

Greetings My name is brent I live in south central PA.

scribble · 12-10-2008, 10:19 PM

In the introductions section. Quickly, before the snipers come back from dinner.

mediccjh · 12-10-2008, 10:36 PM

Too late!

*Pop* into both tib-fibs.

Sniped by the Lehigh Valley/Slate Belt/Pocono Mountain representative.

Now limp on over to the liquor shop. I demand a keg of Guinness and a barrel of Tullamore Dew.

Dorkfish · 12-10-2008, 11:04 PM

CPAP is optional ( very optional ) here on ALS trucks . My company has 1 . It has been used twice I think . Both times the outcome was good and it performed it's task without fail . I am sure other companies here use it on a regular basis , but it is an ALS skill . Mostly because you are using positive pressure to force fluid back across the membranes , and need to be able to do something if it fails .

medic_in_2009 · 12-10-2008, 11:06 PM

You still need to have ALS enroute don't you mediccj? That is what I was told when we did the protocol rollout at NWEMS. Of course, my employer is looking to do it for the BLS trucks we run in the coal region, not naming the service since I could catch you know what.

mediccjh · 12-10-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by medic_in_2009

You still need to have ALS enroute don't you mediccj? That is what I was told when we did the protocol rollout at NWEMS. Of course, my employer is looking to do it for the BLS trucks we run in the coal region, not naming the service since I could catch you know what.

Not quite sure at this time. BLS companies cannot use it until they have the class from the state. I'm going to a train-the-trainer class in January; when I take it I will let you know.

Medic_QT · 12-10-2008, 11:29 PM

I'd hope you guys would need at least an ALS intercept if someone was available. We have CPAP here--I love it, but I can't say anything for BLS CPAP because we're an all ALS system.

medic_in_2009 · 12-10-2008, 11:30 PM

Not to be a smart ass but BLS protocol 421 says everything you need to know about the rules of CPAP for BLS just not how to use it

For anyone wanting to read the protocols for PA you can go to the PA dept of Health website or ehsf.org and you will find all 300+ pages of the latest (effective 11/1/08). They make excellent bathroom reading and are real snoozers.

12-10-2008, 10:00 PM	#1
paemt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: lost in PA Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Bls cpap CPAP was just approved for BLS units in PA I was wondering where else this is a BLS skill and how it has worked out

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scribble Health to the Hazardous! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind you! Posts: 3,670 Rep Power: 110	Re: Bls cpap Introduce thyself. __________________ *I used to be such a nice* girl...** Today’s hollering and screaming traveler-man is brought to you by Delerium™. Remember, when you’re on the Plaza and enraged by the lack of generosity of random passersby, it’s nothing a double-dose of Delerium™ can’t make louder. Ask your imaginary friend if Delerium™ is right for you.

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paemt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: lost in PA Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bls cpap Greetings My name is brent I live in south central PA.

12-10-2008, 10:19 PM	#4
scribble Health to the Hazardous! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind you! Posts: 3,670 Rep Power: 110	Re: Bls cpap In the introductions section. Quickly, before the snipers come back from dinner. __________________ *I used to be such a nice* girl...** Today’s hollering and screaming traveler-man is brought to you by Delerium™. Remember, when you’re on the Plaza and enraged by the lack of generosity of random passersby, it’s nothing a double-dose of Delerium™ can’t make louder. Ask your imaginary friend if Delerium™ is right for you.

12-10-2008, 10:36 PM	#5
mediccjh Cmdr. of Kilt Acquisition Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangor, PA Posts: 893 My Mood: Rep Power: 68	Re: Bls cpap Too late! Pop into both tib-fibs. Sniped by the Lehigh Valley/Slate Belt/Pocono Mountain representative. Now limp on over to the liquor shop. I demand a keg of Guinness and a barrel of Tullamore Dew. __________________ He said, "I left my home where the dead never rose But the streets of gold I've yet to find And at the end of the day all you can do is pray Without hope well you might as well be blind, yeah be blind Tomorrow comes a day too soon, tomorrow comes a day too soon........"

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Dorkfish I am not a sea kitten Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Neighborhood of Make Believe Posts: 2,520 My Mood: Rep Power: 95	Re: Bls cpap CPAP is optional ( very optional ) here on ALS trucks . My company has 1 . It has been used twice I think . Both times the outcome was good and it performed it's task without fail . I am sure other companies here use it on a regular basis , but it is an ALS skill . Mostly because you are using positive pressure to force fluid back across the membranes , and need to be able to do something if it fails . __________________ Don't make me go Fire Chief on your ass ! A: AOS to find a moron C: Pt states " my toe hurts " H: Pt has Hx of abusing 911 A: vitals above , Pt is a moron R: Pt recieved why did you call at 3 am speech T: Tx to facility 50 miles from Pt residence b/c that is where Pt's proctologist is . Don " Ham Sandwitch " , Ghettomedic Mafia . " Step up , or step back . Either way , get to stepping " CWL

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medic_in_2009 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: wishing I was back in Pittsburgh where I belong!!! Posts: 224 My Mood: Rep Power: 26	Re: Bls cpap You still need to have ALS enroute don't you mediccj? That is what I was told when we did the protocol rollout at NWEMS. Of course, my employer is looking to do it for the BLS trucks we run in the coal region, not naming the service since I could catch you know what. __________________ It ain't my first rodeo, Cowboy!!

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medic_in_2009 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: wishing I was back in Pittsburgh where I belong!!! Posts: 224 My Mood: Rep Power: 26	Re: Bls cpap Not to be a smart ass but BLS protocol 421 says everything you need to know about the rules of CPAP for BLS just not how to use it For anyone wanting to read the protocols for PA you can go to the PA dept of Health website or ehsf.org and you will find all 300+ pages of the latest (effective 11/1/08). They make excellent bathroom reading and are real snoozers. __________________ It ain't my first rodeo, Cowboy!! Last edited by medic_in_2009; 12-10-2008 at 11:31 PM. Reason: the voices in my head lied.