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scribble · 05-21-2008, 02:07 AM

here in Illinois we can restrain to our heart's content as long as the patient has a Petition (Involuntary Admission thing) which is pretty much every time we take somebody from a facility for psych. No other orders or documents needed. I usually restrain at least one wrist for transport.

Now the fun part...today I had a guy who kept opening and sticking his hands in and then closing and opening the equipment cabinets. Warned him several times to stop and leave them alone, asked him if he wanted to read the newspaper, tried sitting on the bench as opposed to in the captain's chair, etc. No luck. So, we pull over and restrain both hands to the rails (yes, yes, I know). go back enroute (this is a 60+ mile trip during rush hour) he's still managing to open the cabinets nearest to him. Whatever. Then he's spitting at the bench seat and on the floor. Mask time. Then he's trying to reach under the bench where the splints and junk are kept. Again, warned him. warned him that the bench lid would close on his hand, etc. keeps doing it. So, I grab a roll of 3" tape and tape his fingers together and down. By the time we reach our destination he's got both wrists in leathers, hands taped into stumps, paper mask on, and I've tied him up in the sheet.

wheeeeeee......private EMS is fun.

fm_emt · 05-21-2008, 04:10 PM

Old place in CA: At least 1 limb had to be restrained on ANY psych patient.

New place(s): No restraints whatsoever. We don't even carry them. Why? I have no idea, but this is the fourth service I've seen in the area that's like that.

AMR doesn't even carry restraints that I'm aware of.

PSYCtest040 · 05-21-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fm_emt

Old place in CA: At least 1 limb had to be restrained on ANY psych patient.

New place(s): No restraints whatsoever. We don't even carry them. Why? I have no idea, but this is the fourth service I've seen in the area that's like that.

AMR doesn't even carry restraints that I'm aware of.

Do you carry extra bed sheets or towels????? They make excellent restraints.

cwl3gemt · 05-21-2008, 05:49 PM

6" Kling to the cotrails works wonders too.

NomexMedic · 05-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Soft restraints, ativan, and haldol!

CornholioMedic · 05-21-2008, 11:30 PM

A GSW to the head works best LOL!

Cling and cuffs here.

scribble · 05-22-2008, 01:51 AM

we have the nice leather ones...and the velcro ones are awesome once you get used to them...

cwl3gemt · 05-22-2008, 02:18 AM

roll of bear tape works too for the extreme o shit situations...

CornholioMedic · 05-22-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scribble

we have the nice leather ones...and the velcro ones are awesome once you get used to them...

Freak....lol! Wooohoooo!

scribble · 05-22-2008, 11:14 AM

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Freak....lol! Wooohoooo!

no dear...psych restraints belong on the ambulance. there's a specific kind for extracurricular activities.

05-21-2008, 02:07 AM	#1
scribble Health to the Hazardous! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind you! Posts: 3,670 Rep Power: 110	Restraining your psychs! here in Illinois we can restrain to our heart's content as long as the patient has a Petition (Involuntary Admission thing) which is pretty much every time we take somebody from a facility for psych. No other orders or documents needed. I usually restrain at least one wrist for transport. Now the fun part...today I had a guy who kept opening and sticking his hands in and then closing and opening the equipment cabinets. Warned him several times to stop and leave them alone, asked him if he wanted to read the newspaper, tried sitting on the bench as opposed to in the captain's chair, etc. No luck. So, we pull over and restrain both hands to the rails (yes, yes, I know). go back enroute (this is a 60+ mile trip during rush hour) he's still managing to open the cabinets nearest to him. Whatever. Then he's spitting at the bench seat and on the floor. Mask time. Then he's trying to reach under the bench where the splints and junk are kept. Again, warned him. warned him that the bench lid would close on his hand, etc. keeps doing it. So, I grab a roll of 3" tape and tape his fingers together and down. By the time we reach our destination he's got both wrists in leathers, hands taped into stumps, paper mask on, and I've tied him up in the sheet. wheeeeeee......private EMS is fun. __________________ *I used to be such a nice* girl...** Today’s hollering and screaming traveler-man is brought to you by Delerium™. Remember, when you’re on the Plaza and enraged by the lack of generosity of random passersby, it’s nothing a double-dose of Delerium™ can’t make louder. Ask your imaginary friend if Delerium™ is right for you.

05-21-2008, 04:10 PM	#2
fm_emt BBQ taste tester Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Justin, TX Posts: 1,781 Rep Power: 79	Re: Restraining your psychs! Old place in CA: At least 1 limb had to be restrained on ANY psych patient. New place(s): No restraints whatsoever. We don't even carry them. Why? I have no idea, but this is the fourth service I've seen in the area that's like that. AMR doesn't even carry restraints that I'm aware of.

05-21-2008, 05:49 PM	#4
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05-22-2008, 01:51 AM	#7
scribble Health to the Hazardous! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind you! Posts: 3,670 Rep Power: 110	Re: Restraining your psychs! we have the nice leather ones...and the velcro ones are awesome once you get used to them... __________________ *I used to be such a nice* girl...** Today’s hollering and screaming traveler-man is brought to you by Delerium™. Remember, when you’re on the Plaza and enraged by the lack of generosity of random passersby, it’s nothing a double-dose of Delerium™ can’t make louder. Ask your imaginary friend if Delerium™ is right for you.

05-22-2008, 02:18 AM	#8
cwl3gemt The Silent One Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South of Heaven, North of Hell Posts: 1,775 Rep Power: 84	Re: Restraining your psychs! roll of bear tape works too for the extreme o shit situations... __________________ In the beginning was the word, and the word was BEER and it was good. I don't try to explain to people why I ride a Motorcycle. For those who have experienced the joy No explanation is necessary. For those who haven't No explanation is possible.