Anyone want to go to Paramedic School??

[JenVTemt]

My paramedic class that was suppose to begin in November was pushed back due to lack of applicants. Up here where paramedicine is not so prominent it is difficult to find candidates. Today I found out they have tentatively rescheduled the class to begin February 16th, but they still would like three more people. Right now only seven have applied and they agreed to begin with ten.

This class is through the Advanced Life Support Institute in Conway, New Hampshire. They are excellent instructors. I've taken ACLS through them and attended some of their paramedic classes/lectures before and have been impressed with the level of knowledge taught, how the classes are taught, as well as the level of care of the paramedics that the class produces. ALSI has a high level of expectations for their students.

This class will be held right in Conway, NH every other Saturday and Sunday. It is scheduled to go until the end of June 2009. The cost is reasonable, I believe $6500 not counting books (don't quote me on that... I don't have the paper handy). If anyone would like more information let me know!

Application deadline is January 15th
Interviews for acceptance into the program will be held after the deadline
I'd love to see you in my class... the more the merrier! :icon_biggrin:

Contact info is as follows:
Advanced Life Support Institute
PO Box 2680
15 Washington St. Suite 5
Conway, NH 03818
603-447-4249
603-447-3631 Fax
email: alsi@ncia.net
www.alsi.org (http://www.alsi.org/)

[CHASgirl6204]

Wow, $6500 not counting books?! Yikes. My P-medic class is $4200 for the whole shebang.

I wish you luck in finding some willing classmates though! Hope it works out :)

[mike]

So if we go are you putting us up and paying the bill?

[medic pathetic]

wow. Our price is 2200-2400 including books. Is it the same medic cert that i get? Is it an accredited school- do the credits transfer over to college credits?

[PSYCtest040]

I'd like to attend P-School in the near future but that is a long commute for me.

[CombatMedic]

$6500. Holy $%^&. Thank God I love in NC. At least here we get fee exemption for the classes and the only thing we have to pay for is the books. Maybe some of you need to come here. I am gonna be starting a medic class in January. One day a week, 8hours. And we will be done by December.

Hope you have some luck with finding people to take the class.

As a side note, I miss NE and the skiing, so hit the slopes for me.

[medic pathetic]

I am gonna be starting a medic class in January. One day a week, 8hours. And we will be done by December.

! day a week? Does that include clinical time? We are doing ours in a year (may-may) also. We have 8 hour days, 2-3 times a week, and about every other saturday. But We won't start clinicals till January- which is also the time we have to start on a 2000 minimum research paper for 25% of our grade.They want paper by march and clinicals done by early-mid April so we have the rest of the time to study for the test. They can make such requests/demands because the company is putting on and paying for our class, as well as clinicals.

[CHASgirl6204]

! But We won't start clinicals till January

Wow, they're running yours in a year and only allowing you 5 months to complete clinicals? I'm curious...how many hours are you required as far as running the road, ED, and other parts of the hospital?

I really apologize if I've jacked the thread here. But I'm just extemely interested to know the duration of classes/clinical rotations and such for different people in different locations. Maybe we should start a new thread on this??

[fm_emt]

We have 2 medic schools in our county. Two. one of them is a college program that you have to apply for, are graded on a point basis, and unless you're working as an EMT for AMR you will score way lower. The other is a 'we take anyone' program that costs about $18,000 - oh, they'll happily give you loans. They have a high failure rate from what I've heard too. It's a 9 month program and then you're into clinicals.

That's another reason I'm moving to Texas. I found a program I like.

[cwl3gemt]

we have a 7500 dollar program that is one of the two best in the state. low failure rate.
it is a year long, and then clinicals.

the other one is waaaay more intense. like 4 months intense. little to no fauliers out of this one. it is taught at the university of iowa, and the clinicals are dont at the schools hospital. not sure how much it costs, but it is a good program.

[JenVTemt]

So if we go are you putting us up and paying the bill?

I am wondering if I will need somewhere to stay Sat. nights on class weekends myself because I will have a two/two and a half hour commute. I'd go in halfsies on a hotel room! :toothy10:


And I thought $6500 was cheap! The other schools around here within 3hrs are all 7k and 10k respectively. And yes, this is an accredited program.

Also, I do believe there are national requirements as to what and how many hours of each clinical time you have to do, but I am not sure what those hours are.

[GaHazMedic]

I am wondering if I will need somewhere to stay Sat. nights on class weekends myself because I will have a two/two and a half hour commute. I'd go in halfsies on a hotel room! :toothy10:


And I thought $6500 was cheap! The other schools around here within 3hrs are all 7k and 10k respectively. And yes, this is an accredited program.

Also, I do believe there are national requirements as to what and how many hours of each clinical time you have to do, but I am not sure what those hours are.

Believe it or not, there are no national requirements. Each state sets their own.

[medic pathetic]

Wow, they're running yours in a year and only allowing you 5 months to complete clinicals? I'm curious...how many hours are you required as far as running the road, ED, and other parts of the hospital?

I really apologize if I've jacked the thread here. But I'm just extemely interested to know the duration of classes/clinical rotations and such for different people in different locations. Maybe we should start a new thread on this??

Our clinicals are being worked out as we speak. It's something like 280 hours on the ambulance, and 270 in the hospital. We are also doing a day at the Ronald McDonald House, and possibly (hopefully, i am so freaking excited about it) a day at the MEs office to watch autopsies. A cadaver is about 5000 for my whole class. That's not gonna happen. He's looking for more things for us to do for clinicals. But we will be in a clinical 3 or 4 times a week. And all ambulance is done together, and then all hosp is done together. the only things that may break the cycle are any more extra clinicals he adds on.

But for those of us that are employees are going to be riding our regular shifts as students and getting paid for them, as well as hospital time, to my understanding. Last semester they had 16 students. Everyone passed the class, and everyone who has tested is a paramedic. I think there is still one girl who is hanging out with cold feet, and 2 people were taking the class for the fun of it.

[GaHazMedic]

Our clinicals are being worked out as we speak. It's something like 280 hours on the ambulance, and 270 in the hospital. We are also doing a day at the Ronald McDonald House, and possibly (hopefully, i am so freaking excited about it) a day at the MEs office to watch autopsies. A cadaver is about 5000 for my whole class. That's not gonna happen. He's looking for more things for us to do for clinicals. But we will be in a clinical 3 or 4 times a week. And all ambulance is done together, and then all hosp is done together. the only things that may break the cycle are any more extra clinicals he adds on.

But for those of us that are employees are going to be riding our regular shifts as students and getting paid for them, as well as hospital time, to my understanding. Last semester they had 16 students. Everyone passed the class, and everyone who has tested is a paramedic. I think there is still one girl who is hanging out with cold feet, and 2 people were taking the class for the fun of it.

I would never allow my students to do that. You can't learn behind the steering wheel.

[CHASgirl6204]

Our clinicals are being worked out as we speak. It's something like 280 hours on the ambulance, and 270 in the hospital. We are also doing a day at the Ronald McDonald House, and possibly (hopefully, i am so freaking excited about it) a day at the MEs office to watch autopsies. A cadaver is about 5000 for my whole class. That's not gonna happen. He's looking for more things for us to do for clinicals. But we will be in a clinical 3 or 4 times a week. And all ambulance is done together, and then all hosp is done together. the only things that may break the cycle are any more extra clinicals he adds on.

But for those of us that are employees are going to be riding our regular shifts as students and getting paid for them, as well as hospital time, to my understanding. Last semester they had 16 students. Everyone passed the class, and everyone who has tested is a paramedic. I think there is still one girl who is hanging out with cold feet, and 2 people were taking the class for the fun of it.

I'll keep my fingers crossed you get your ME opportunity! We have an awesome pathologist here that can do a full in-depth autopsy in 30-45 minutes. And trust me....he's so thorough it's unbelievable. I really think it's some great insight and something that everyone in the healthcare field should get the opportunity to sit in on at some point.

I'm going to end up doing a little less than double what you're required for truck time. We're just shy of 200 for ED time alone too; that's not counting Cath, anesthesia, etc. either.



I would never allow my students to do that. You can't learn behind the steering wheel.


I agree, yeah, you won't learn behind the wheel. But that's say, hypothetically...if she was on the clock, running a two man crew, and as a EMT-B was relegated to run behind the wheel. I'm guessing perhaps she'll be in the back with a medic as her preceptor. Personally, if I was clocking clinical hours and got stuck behind the wheel, you'd see a major hissy fit. I'd rather be working the back anyday. Learn, practice/hone your skills, and make money at the same time? Damn, doesn't get much better.

[GaHazMedic]

I'll keep my fingers crossed you get your ME opportunity! We have an awesome pathologist here that can do a full in-depth autopsy in 30-45 minutes. And trust me....he's so thorough it's unbelievable. I really think it's some great insight and something that everyone in the healthcare field should get the opportunity to sit in on at some point.

I'm going to end up doing a little less than double what you're required for truck time. We're just shy of 200 for ED time alone too; that's not counting Cath, anesthesia, etc. either.





I agree, yeah, you won't learn behind the wheel. But that's say, hypothetically...if she was on the clock, running a two man crew, and as a EMT-B was relegated to run behind the wheel. I'm guessing perhaps she'll be in the back with a medic as her preceptor. Personally, if I was clocking clinical hours and got stuck behind the wheel, you'd see a major hissy fit. I'd rather be working the back anyday. Learn, practice/hone your skills, and make money at the same time? Damn, doesn't get much better.

Every company should provide that for their employees, but that will never happen.

We have a lot of instructors who let their students log hours if they are working with a preceptor. It doesn't matter that they are driving the patients in. They let them log the hours anyway. I am fighting to change that. A medic student cannot learn if they are not in the back with the patients. They try to rationalize it here by saying that most treatment gets done on the scene, so the student is not missing anything. I disagree. If it is a patient requiring any advanced skills, then treatment will continue enroute, and I don't think students should miss out on that. I wish EMS nationwide would go to a system like LA County had back in the 70's and 80's. After the students finished their class (didactic and clinicals) they tested. If they passed, they were issued a provisional license. To be fully licensed, they had to work alongside a licensed medic for 6 months. I fully support a 6 month internship following school.

[CHASgirl6204]

Every company should provide that for their employees, but that will never happen.




Never ever say NEVER. I have that opportunity and I work with some fantastic medics.

[GaHazMedic]

Never ever say NEVER. I have that opportunity and I work with some fantastic medics.

I would love to know more about your program. If you get a chance, could you either email or pm with info on how your hours are divided, internship, etc? I am working on putting together some material for our State office on where we need to be heading with our programs, and I am always looking for good programs to get ideas from.

[medic pathetic]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. We are paid to do our clinicals in place of our regular shifts, but is illegal to be a student and act as any level EMT. It will be a 3 or 4 man crew, we will be in student uniforms, and the moment any of us sit in the driver seat for any reason, our student time is done for the shift, and we must change into our regular shirts. The only time that will happen is if someone gets sick and we need to modify the crew. We will have the same preceptor the entire time who will oversee everything we do, and will audit our charts before being sent off to the supervisors for review and then billing.
So yeah, we get to learn/practice hone our skills, and get paid at the same time.

After we are officially paramedics, we are catagorized as P1. basically you are a paramedic who is driving as able to act as a paramedic, but not able to be in charge of a truck. This is to give us more time to be comfortable running calls as a medic and learn our companies protocols. After 4-6 months they reevaluate to see if this is the company for you or if you need more time. Once cleared by the MD, you become PII which is incharge. You can do everything except RSI and chemically sedate on your own. PIII you can sub for a supervisor, and do any and all skills in your own. Which brings up another subject. Off to post a thread..

[GaHazMedic]

Sounds like a great program, MP. Where do you work? You can PM that if you prefer. Is you class being taught through your service?

[medic pathetic]

Yes it's being put on through my company. The agreement is if you are nice to them, they are nice to you. I think everyone has had a different kind of agreement with them about their agreement. Some agree to work for them a certain time after becoming a paramedic. Some just paid for the class and took it. We have people from all other services in my class, but the majority is our employees.

[FlyDoc]

Does anyone know of a school that will allow me to use my EMT-P and other credits IE chemistry to finish my associates in emergency health sciences? preferably online.

in Hawaii the city and county of Honolulu are so short EMT-P's that they just tested personnel to go to P-school they will receive a striped of 2900 a month and school is paid for and all you have to do is work for them 2 years after completion.

[CombatMedic]

Does anyone know of a school that will allow me to use my EMT-P and other credits IE chemistry to finish my associates in emergency health sciences? preferably online.

in Hawaii the city and county of Honolulu are so short EMT-P's that they just tested personnel to go to P-school they will receive a striped of 2900 a month and school is paid for and all you have to do is work for them 2 years after completion.

Coastal Carolina Community College (Jacksonville, NC) has an EMS Associates program with a transfer to UNC Charlotte for Bachlors. Just some things that I have found. Do not know how that will work for you. They both are available on line if I remember correctly.

[PSYCtest040]

in Hawaii the city and county of Honolulu are so short EMT-P's that they just tested personnel to go to P-school they will receive a striped of 2900 a month and school is paid for and all you have to do is work for them 2 years after completion.

Did I read this right? The city will pay me $2900 a month and pay for school and all I have to do is give them 24 months? Sign me up, I'll be there tomorrow. I spent three years in Hawaii assigned to the 25th ID and would love to go back.

[KSEMT]

Did I read this right? The city will pay me $2900 a month and pay for school and all I have to do is give them 24 months? Sign me up, I'll be there tomorrow. I spent three years in Hawaii assigned to the 25th ID and would love to go back.

I second this motion! Where do I sign?!

[mike]

From the few people I have talked to I hear it is a good system and that sounds like a good deal, I would say go for it.

In regards to an AA I think the big problem is going to be did you take the EMT-P through a college (good for credits) or a local nbon college school house (PITA to get credits.) That and most colleges require you to finish at least 15 credits with them before they will "own" yours for a degree.

If you find one let me know BTW


Does anyone know of a school that will allow me to use my EMT-P and other credits IE chemistry to finish my associates in emergency health sciences? preferably online.

in Hawaii the city and county of Honolulu are so short EMT-P's that they just tested personnel to go to P-school they will receive a striped of 2900 a month and school is paid for and all you have to do is work for them 2 years after completion.

[Dorkfish]

Wow, $6500 not counting books?! Yikes. My P-medic class is $4200 for the whole shebang.

Got about $4800 total in my class . Including the pee test we had to take before starting rotations .


I am gonna be starting a medic class in January. One day a week, 8hours. And we will be done by December.
My class went every C shift for 8 hours a class . We went Jan. - Dec . That is two days one week , one day the next , then two days again . Not knocking it , but how do they plan on being done that fast going one 8 hour day a week ?

[FlyDoc]

Did I read this right? The city will pay me $2900 a month and pay for school and all I have to do is give them 24 months? Sign me up, I'll be there tomorrow. I spent three years in Hawaii assigned to the 25th ID and would love to go back.

I forgot to tell you all that if you were not born and raised here they don't want you here. they claim equal opportunity but do not practice it!

[KSEMT]

Well, in that case, to hell with Hawaii. Doc, you're cool you can come and go as you please. Figure out exactly how I can get 2900 a month, and them pay for my schooling, then I'm all for it, heck, I'd even stay 5 years! :)

[luke_31]

I would go, but I am scheduled to start medic school on Jan 3rd. out here in LA